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PostPosted: 090308 03:19 
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http://blogs.static.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/22179.html

"Why is the middle finger offensive?" Thought it was a mildly interesting read. The highlight of course is the authors astute observation of how the penis and vagina are, for some senseless cosmic reason, somehow considered to mean something bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Fingers
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Interesting, even partly humorous. I'm kind of surprised the gesture goes back so far into history. To me this seems the case of imbuing a benign object with complex contextual meaning, which then overshadows the original object. The easily offended then take the object to be a manifestation of the meaning, and when faced with the difficulty of eliminating the meaning, they instead turn their attention to the more concrete task of eliminating the object. Perhaps it's not the case that the simple display of the middle finger, even in non-confrontational positions, is banned altogether, but in the case of human genitalia, which may or may not be portrayed in a lewd context, much like the middle finger, society has deemed the sight of such, regardless of context, to be an immoral, and in some cases, illegal act. Hence, a photo of a person naked is automatically considered porn, whether that is actually true or not. This is an example of overly simplified thinking, which is the enemy of free speech and expression.

On a more casual note, I'm not much a fan of "the middle finger" (the meaning, not the finger itself). Sure, symbolically, it's like a big "fuck you" to everything that stands in your way, but in actual practice, I find it to be much too blunt and confrontational for my tastes. And frankly, I think photos of people showing off their middle finger(s) are rather lame and contrived. But that's me.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Fingers
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Well, to my credit I don't believe I've ever been photographed giving the middle finger except for in a dress and in a cowboy hat, those two photos being obvious bits of punk rock and southern kitsch respectively.

I'm not a big fan of the finger either. I think words do a much better job. But I do use the middle finger against myself, where words need not be said. This "fig" could have promise, though.

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I bet you'll never look at the innocent "got your nose" game the same way again. :lol:

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I always wonder about the veracity of those random types of blog posts. "Oh, I heard it from some guy or I read this thing that's sort of like that so it must be" -- it's all so unreliable in the end. I mean, even professional magazines and papers print that kind of hearsay that the authors assume is truth, like the "Eskimos have hundreds of words for snow" or something.

One of the other offenders is the "fornication under consent of king" crap. There were a bunch of other urban legend explanations for various things that just irritated the crap out of me, but I can't remember...


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Fingers
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Hm, so are you doubting the veracity of the claims made in that article, or just being healthily skeptical? I suppose I can be a little too trusting at times of people's words. Not much you can do about urban legends, but isn't that what Snopes.com is for? Not everybody reads "A Million Things You'll Never Need To Know"... ;)

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I'm kind of dubious. A lot of it rings of hearsay and just general speculation with "literary" references to make it seem like the previous stuff is actually factual.


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I think the middle finger is amazing for when you need to deliver a message but verbally cannot be heard. It's doubly effective when you give it as hard as you and can tell the person "Fuck you!" It's like a double whammy. Then you can take it a step further and do a double middle finger WITH a verbal "Fuck you!" That's like hitting them with a large tractor trailer of Fuck You(TM).

Edit: I should probably go read the article now.

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Kashi wrote:
It's doubly effective when you give it as hard as you and can tell the person "Fuck you!" It's like a double whammy. Then you can take it a step further and do a double middle finger WITH a verbal "Fuck you!" That's like hitting them with a large tractor trailer of Fuck You(TM).

That reminds me of a thing they'd do on The Late Show (with David Letterman) every once in awhile. They'd have a guy that would come on stage in the middle of proceedings and just do a real hard, double-fingered, shout of "FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOU!!!!" Just for poops and laughter.

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zharth wrote:
Just for poops and laughter.


The best part of your post was this line, and I'm sure you and I know why. I actually laughed IRL when I read that.

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